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Latest comment: 1 month ago by Dogfennydd in topic Category:Holy Trinity Church, Llandrindod Wells
Welcome to Wikimedia Commons, Dogfennydd!

-- Wikimedia Commons Welcome (talk) 19:23, 19 November 2019 (UTC)Reply

Churchyards/Graveyards in Wales

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Do all churchyards in Wales have graves? It's certainly not the case in Liverpool. Rodhullandemu (talk) 19:32, 16 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Most Welsh “churchyard in <county>” categories are already subcategories of “cemetery in <county>”, and I was standardizing. I grant that there will be some urban and modern churches without graves surrounding them, but in Wales these would be a minority; in those cases I don’t expect the grounds to be of photographic interest and any photos can easily be categorized with the church. Dogfennydd (talk) 19:45, 16 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Category names should be in English

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Thank you for your work on categorisation. You may not be aware of the policy that Commons category names should normally be in English, see Commons:Categories#Category names. The categories you created Category:Englynion beddargraff and Category:Cerddi beddargraff appear to be in Welsh. Google Translate gives Cerddi beddargraff as "Grave poems", which matches my very rudimentary knowledge of Welsh. 'Englynion' is acceptable because this is the English name of the verse form (see w:en:Englyn).

I suggest that the names should be Category:Welsh-language poetry on gravestones and Category:Englynion on gravestones. If you are content with these or something similar then please rename the categories (see Commons:Rename a category, probably use the More→Move link at the top of the category page).

If you are unhappy with this we should start discussions on the category talk pages.

Diolch, Verbcatcher (talk) 21:36, 19 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

Thanks: ✓ Done Dogfennydd (talk) 21:42, 19 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

Thank you!

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Thanks for fixing this! I admit completely it was my fault. British history is a weak point for me! Is there another William Sandy category out there? --Engineerchange (talk) 00:57, 13 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

Don’t think so; it would only be useful if there were other pictures related to him. That image is now added to his Wikidata profile as an image of his grave, so there should be some link from the photo to the real person through that. Dogfennydd (talk) 10:58, 13 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

Duplicate

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Hi, the scans may be different but they come from the same negative just in a lower quality (there's no doubt about it). I can't understand why someone would need a lower quality scan as it's always possible to reduce the size and the weight of a picture if needed. It is not because the capacity of Commons seems unlimited that we should store unnecessary pictures (that is exactly the purpose of the duplicate template). --Birdie (talk) 14:38, 13 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

@Birdie: As I understand it, these images come from a series of photographs in the archive of the National Library of Wales (NLW), which were systematically uploaded in bulk. As such, there are archival reasons for keeping separate images (not to mention the fact that each of the photographs is linked to its own Wikidata item about that photograph). Perhaps @Jason.nlw can give a better explanation than me (as the original uploader and NLW Wikimedian). (Note: this is in relation to File:Tredegarville Church (4785885).jpg, File:Tredegarville Church, Cardiff (4641252).jpg, File:Tredegarville Baptist Church (4641269).jpg.) Dogfennydd (talk) 15:52, 13 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

You have added a {{Location possible}} template to the above file. However there is no way that we can find a geolocation for a building which was demolished long ago, and we don't know where it was. I can supply a random geolocation for some point along the road if you like, but that would be misleading for a researcher who needed to know exactly where the building was. Storye book (talk) 14:22, 28 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

@Storye book: Thanks for the message, and sorry for not realizing that you’d already removed the template once before. In this case I don’t think the building has been demolished: this building appears pretty much identical to the one in the photo, and was a HSBC till 2015/16. Not sure where 25 Denmark Terrace is; in this old OS map King St was still called The Green and reached down to where the bank would be built. There are rows of unnamed houses here and I suspect these are what was referred to by “Denmark Terrace”. I’ll add the geolocation to that place: hope that’s OK. Dogfennydd (talk) 16:48, 28 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thank you. I have re-categorised it to 1 Regina Road, Southall. If you would like to add a geolocation which fits that address, you are welcome. Thanks for the link - really helpful. Storye book (talk) 17:23, 28 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

I see it rotated 90 degrees clockwise from where int should be, the gravestone on its side, and I see it presented that way in the enwiki material it is included in and below, here. Am I missing something?

Above I see it forced into portrait presentation, thus distorted and at 90 degrees to the vertical. what do you see? 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 Timtrent 🇺🇦 talk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 08:51, 9 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

I see it oriented correctly, and in the correct aspect ratio (both on the file page and in the inclusion above). Not sure why you’re seeing it incorrectly. What happens if you purge the cache? Dogfennydd (talk) 09:07, 9 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
There is something odd going on here. Purging cache had no effect. Opening in a new private window had no effect (I use Mac/Safari). Opening in Opera it is 100% correct. I find this more than a little strange. Do you have any thoughts? 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 Timtrent 🇺🇦 talk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 21:03, 9 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
Quitting Safari and restarting it had no effect either. Very perplexing. 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 Timtrent 🇺🇦 talk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 21:09, 9 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
I’m at a loss I’m afraid. My system is Linux/Firefox and it renders fine. I would suggest raising a question on Commons:Help desk or Commons:Village pump/Technical to gather information on which browsers render the image incorrectly, to work out if it’s a bug in Safari or in Commons. An alternative might be to tag the image with a requested rotation of zero degrees, to reset the EXIF tags. Dogfennydd (talk) 00:33, 10 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
I have suggested a zero degree rotation 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 Timtrent 🇺🇦 talk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 17:44, 10 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

Category:Holy Trinity Church, Llandrindod Wells

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Hello Dogfennydd, making this category a disambiguation was in principle the right idea, but the "Disambig" template is not sufficient: see what I did do this category and to Category:Holy Trinity Church, Llandrindod Wells (old), for example. So a disambiguation category is not categorized except automatically by {{Disambig}}; the churches (in this case) are categorized by "Church in" etc., but not by the disambiguation category. Sole content of a disambiguation category (besides the {{Disambig}}) are links (!) to the disambiguated categories and sometimes a wikidata infobox. Telford (talk) 15:20, 5 September 2025 (UTC)Reply

Thanks Telford for fixing that — I think I must have got sidetracked by adding the photos of the old church to the newly-created category and not returned to fix the disambiguation category, which I obviously needed to do! Dogfennydd (talk) 16:58, 5 September 2025 (UTC)Reply
Same problem with Category:Llyn Du (Ceredigion). I suppose you can fix it yourself. --Telford (talk) 06:38, 6 September 2025 (UTC)Reply
✓ Done -- thanks again. Dogfennydd (talk) 14:26, 6 September 2025 (UTC)Reply